From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PL support Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 13:41:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <0d678371-2df7-519e-5ec0-7e26bfa6ea34@gmail.com> <11dff979-002e-e03e-2e3e-cdb09fcc409e@yandex.ru> <8017be3d-a4ed-61eb-9bdb-9a95c77a0698@gmail.com> <3adf65ae-fd0d-4fee-adfd-e11d39a148fc@yandex.ru> <01e211df-acfb-fb8a-eedc-7cb439b64cd8@yandex.ru> <57491476-b7d1-ed1e-9eaf-bc45db607ae8@yandex.ru> <835zd2bf2h.fsf@gnu.org> <1c43f78b-2bc5-8c81-4a57-ba63bb721c85@yandex.ru> <83wo5i9z21.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7wm9uy7.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7wl86sq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="118993"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , cpitclaudel@gmail.com, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 19:42:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZHsO-000Up8-6e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 19:42:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56918 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZHsN-0007o7-9s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:42:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZHrd-0007G5-Sr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:41:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23661) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZHrb-0000c1-Lf; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:41:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EB6711002CF; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:41:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 246B410031E; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:41:40 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1589478100; bh=KrNSn5WltDbF0t8xyttmOq+cIunicuRAHjXUyqfZOJI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Ch9RDfc1T1KXuxNxae013h2OkQHInxcbU+pgccL1Gz8RPKKijX87lDQyqqMlcpCWV lbRILXvhn8/zC7KJc4y1DtcfahYD57Y/c8nHzaSwE/se84t49iGchue5IE3V0x8y6J igOKxJfLBJ1CjSJdQmIaV6MwmnQ1RuvLHYjGjhcItPCAhsgZKCucDiRwIRje2DShEM WSc/qT56KakjA0F/lILuhvsGqqsaT5yceR6IjjB9KY9BGXbQBQxZbnNHiX1jHyBizI O0rf32JCDQVc5dN/OQyODGmw7Y3uBLFdCXkPQHi8cEzOgN2o/lsy9G/YVRvQXfL6p8 tRgNCMbVtMxeQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB34D1203B9; Thu, 14 May 2020 13:41:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 14 May 2020 16:41:32 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/14 13:41:42 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250268 Archived-At: >> - It would not impose our own coding conventions and would hence happily >> accept `s.el`. > Note: we most likely can ask s.el's author to better follow _some_ of our > conventions, if that's what it takes to accept it for GNU ELPA. > But renaming the package (with 400+ dependencies out there) would > be impractical. The issue is not `s.el`, but any other package with comparable (tho not necessarily identical) issues w.r.t coding convention. I mention `s.el` as an example of a package where the breakage of coding-convention seems severe enough (contrary to my own judgment, FWIW) to disallow it into GNU ELPA even though everyone agrees it is technically fine. Stefan