From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: splash-screen Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:08:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d02ej7bq.fsf@gnus.org> <874knoekki.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu1fb8kb.fsf@gnus.org> <87blhurx3n.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8lslklt.fsf@gnus.org> <83wo0fo8sg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25934"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "Nicolas P. Rougier" , Eli Zaretskii , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel To: Thibaut Verron Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 18:10:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMZFY-0006ff-54 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 18:10:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54192 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMZFX-000317-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:10:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMZER-000299-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:08:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:21202) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMZEP-0000wr-5M; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CAE1480300; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 78DAA80739; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:08:53 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1601222933; bh=p+CIyqNIXmH/hbRA5vfUlW+rW3YomKSibxdcSKVe/80=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=VJDdhWwyfqNy16hx1EipJnrrm6Q6iu/stvWJPVoZUKTmiH1iRMLUEJQaUV3NbHFi9 MiKlyCa8WkJdpS+x+t20uMByvIANegI20r/uwNJhelYaGzFpWRhdohmU+Lc4qgqlPc tXpNtaYCbn9ZOJTrknVC3PA5qUikFQ5RBxOIP3IKsJA2r4ELTBh4jSP11Z0CEtUE3f EHAt23rkfK2doGWXDYJtpBHkPejJ/w6W4WDfw/X9IdqmmKqS/x2JRH/9fdC9qzxuGN p/T+VHA/QFUB3ZQoKrdVl6/bKNWB+6QsWxInB7VEuCrtwBLA3sLmi9HqEiZr4OQQJw +P3BZPic0fBFw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3036F1202BB; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:08:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Thibaut Verron's message of "Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:56:34 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/27 11:46:31 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256545 Archived-At: > Firefox does it with a yellow background. Firefox web services does it > in bold. Libreoffice does it with no highlighting whatsoever. Where/when do LibreOffice and Firefox display such a thing? > I don't agree that it's a tangent. Emacs shows it "first thing you > see", in all caps. Other software require either clicking one's way to > the EULA, or requesting this info with --version. Right. That's the issue for me: the real estate of the "splash screen" shouldn't be wasted on such information, especially since some could read as "Oh, please take into account that we're so especially buggy that we need to warn you first thing". Stefan