From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers! Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201031194419.GC5887@ACM> <834kmago8m.fsf@gnu.org> <20201031203914.GD5887@ACM> <835z6ogc1h.fsf@gnu.org> <20201101195313.GA6190@ACM> <83sg9rd6cp.fsf@gnu.org> <20201102185147.GC7297@ACM> <83mtzzd0s3.fsf@gnu.org> <20201103210853.GA21923@ACM> <83ft5pax2p.fsf@gnu.org> <20201104173954.GA14535@ACM> <83v9ed3nbw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20296"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , enometh@meer.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrii Kolomoiets Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 10 20:59:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZnG-0005As-TZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 20:59:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48800 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZnF-0003kU-Vn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:59:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58394) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZm0-0002as-71 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42783) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZlx-0003dX-Ck; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 89D6D80ABE; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:43 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0AD8580194; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:42 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1605038262; bh=mhKoLQzNkeBVNwb26JjldNGBnad/L3dnn+9AddrcLXs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=PWqHVIj2P4OVTt/ysMRfRDX45/kvsmUUftfcQP4IBZp8dJQfARfntcRSCeDQu2x5O pHOlcwVjzaoepMIYvvGL74jz/JD1WOL64d3p1FF+2qbAE9Y4NPLWlvAAZbhDMkncGr cX4u4TifnZhUGugg0J3ba5qh7SGfGVfNwIOVZPyQQxdFTyZfDoW2APlTK4mJMLxZ+I Q9enk1osy074A24UaZ1Av/2e//oP6MS/gVmo/A2ZkOO2rojy1ssCQlgd0MWLlQBbM3 7YJjoEcr4XcXP7G3E8SxrD4gC0XnJaFuCMO37DoFILc13ZylRZkaxhkFAadWcqcR0r R63i0Y7YTuPvQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE6B312002C; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Andrii Kolomoiets's message of "Tue, 10 Nov 2020 19:27:45 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/10 14:48:46 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258989 Archived-At: > I don't sure what the "in the wild" means, but I know at least two > packages that shows minibuffer-only child frame on reading user input: > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/honmaple/emacs-maple-minibuffer/master/maple-minibuffer.el > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/muffinmad/emacs-mini-frame/master/mini-frame.el Indeed, great examples, thanks. > I can't report this as a bug. Just wondering why > minibuffer-follows-selected-frame is set to t by default, potentially > changing someone's expected behavior. I think the reason is that it more closely mimics what happens with the echo area and it arguably (philosophically) better matches the default setting of `enable-recursive-minibuffers`. But if it results in regressions with packages to maple-minibuffer or mini-frame, we should of course try and address that (either by refining the behavior or by changing the default). Stefan