From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Doc of deprecated INITIAL-INPUT arg of completing-read Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:28:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87v8smt9lp.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30889"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 30 16:30:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o6vBc-0007r9-M4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:30:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52048 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6vBb-0007RK-Ju for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:30:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6vA7-00060K-Nh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:53966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o6vA5-0007uS-Io; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 647D380677; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 12D6A80261; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:28:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1656599330; bh=vNc/3zZRkkIsB2DmcP2vH0Fw9PX0AH/At3YCbiFsnPk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=f7XeNH8LGXYl1qSWXm86Esg64U0DmWVQTSBjL3lnKgL5xP8uapZlC10vtGgryHeIz IolNQNl1vKvxrj0YS2rm0mLY03oiN9ej4HxmeCmgkQOKZAqwXOzksBKzNDuokrJ7Zv JJ9c+RaHLbgzKWvZhE9CNzpSj4ijzlNDwGOZcnX9unLXAfCm8cYozuIPgGtzHhOEGP d6Nkr1LmGj6kQtNW1E7jAVPfVyVIEIONuMyMBq0FA56SQmLXxU7hDbOKLIfbPx9kLO 3nHfooIZPX2d0/aEhjEMkX+k5rE1rZqbl5bsY9/5ZRd3FC1fL3SKw3wMe7It2rJFaH /oH/hN1AZz76g== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.196.165]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C84F91205D9; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:28:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 29 Jun 2022 23:08:17 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291745 Archived-At: > > Because there's a lot of past experience where people want to have the > > Windows-style behavior where prompts get prefilled with the (selected) > > default, and they don't understand that in order to get that they need > > to change `completing-read`. So instead they abuse `initial-content` in > > their code (even though it doesn't give quite the same behavior either > > but gets the closer). > > Would it be possible to tell users the rest of that? > That is, to tell them what to do instead of using INITIAL-CONTENT? > Ideally it should tell them what mode to enable to get that behavior > for Emacs completion generally. It's mostly waiting for someone to write the code. Then it's just a matter of setting a boolean config var. Stefan