From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: 19 Nov 2003 08:56:47 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <87ad6vdsxi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069250320 9817 80.91.224.253 (19 Nov 2003 13:58:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 19 14:58:36 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMSqq-0004Jt-00 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:58:36 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMSqq-0005lz-00 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:58:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMTnp-0006oZ-1N for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:59:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMTni-0006nC-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:59:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMTnC-0006hO-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:59:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMTmh-0006YQ-BM; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:58:23 -0500 Original-Received: from vor.iro.umontreal.ca (vor.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.42]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJDumbj016008; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:56:48 -0500 Original-Received: by vor.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F1EEA3C63E; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:56:47 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17919 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17919 > After (defcustom foobar 1 "hello"), set-variable is quite happy to > let me set the variable `foobar'. > On second thought, I believe that is a bug. It's clearly not a bug. A misfeature maybe, but not a bug since code was written explicitly for it. Anyway my point is that the difference between defcustom with and without a * is in practice absent and in theory much too subtle and debatable to justify its existence (after all, who knows whether users will want to set something interactively or only at startup). I suggest we just get rid of the distinction altogether. Stefan