From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Hebrew xlation of Emacs tutorial Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:52:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20070202014816.c691bb82.yotam.medini@gmail.com> <20070202172551.3a25b37f.yotam.medini@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1170467593 10306 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2007 01:53:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yotam.medini@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 03 02:53:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HDA5S-0007g3-VO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:53:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HDA5S-0007Fd-Om for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:53:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HDA5I-0007E6-3Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:52:56 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HDA5G-0007CD-Kc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:52:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HDA5G-0007C3-HK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:52:54 -0500 Original-Received: from tomts43.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.110] helo=tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HDA5F-00057U-9p; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:52:53 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([74.13.168.230]) by tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070203015251.NOWW11361.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:52:51 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C51BE7F56; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:52:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri\, 02 Feb 2007 22\:04\:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:65809 Archived-At: >> In the case of Hebrew, I think the best option is to write it "right" (using >> another editor) > One can write logical-order Hebrew in Emacs today, no need for another > editor. It's just the display that is broken. If you want to write it with Emacs, feel free, but I personally wouldn't spend any time writing French texts on a right-to-left-only text editor, no matter how great it may otherwise be. > I don't see how we can craft a tutorial without being able to display > it, since the tutorial undergoes reformatting by Emacs, as you know. It does? No, as a matter of fact, I didn't know. And taking another look at the French tutorial, I don't see any reformatting going on. > If someone wants to contribute just the text, we could perhaps keep it > in admin somewhere, but I doubt that anyone would wish to work on > something that will not be used for some time to come. It could be printed/displayed with other tools, and thus still be usable. >> One more motivation for writing the bidi support. > I lack time, not motivation ;-) I'd hope someone *else* would jump in. Stefan