From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current state of python.el in the Emacs trunk Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:33:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4D40F55C.2040400@gmail.com> <874o85t61z.fsf@liv.ac.uk> <87y65hukcj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297809241 3801 80.91.229.12 (15 Feb 2011 22:34:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Christoph , Dave Love , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 23:33:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PpTT2-0002lS-CK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:33:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55060 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PpTT1-0005mS-T0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:33:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51773 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PpTSx-0005m9-4k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:33:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PpTSw-0003rk-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:33:50 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:54813) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PpTSu-0003rQ-MJ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:33:48 -0500 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p1FMYSeO022260; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:34:28 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 38304B4106; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:33:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87y65hukcj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:13:48 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3735=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136077 Archived-At: >> Since you're planning to replace python.el with python-mode.el for >> some strange reason, > This is a false statement. Almost: there have been discussions to switch to python-mode.el (predicated on the ability to get the copyright cleared), so Dave's comment isn't completely false. The only problem is that the very reason for desiring such a switch is because nobody (including and especially the most obvious candidate, Dave) has been willing to maintain our python.el. IOW it's not really that his statement is false, but that we're faced with an inconsistent logic ;-) Now Fabian proposes a third Python mode. That sounds like adding insult to injury, but I must say it is very tempting: - its copyright is clean, like our python.el. - he seems interested in maintaining it. Of course, I'd rather work at bringing the various python modes closer to each other, rather than have them fork even further, so I'm not sure what's the best course here. Stefan