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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner@googlemail.com>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Update on the Emacs release schedule?
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:54:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvsjjqi9o3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACY+HvrBOkX6VQpSdjhc9einqLx4yeLoesXtL8frNEhJZd9pQQ@mail.gmail.com> (Carsten Mattner's message of "Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:32:29 +0100")

>>> For the record, I use a --without-gnutls Emacs while also not
>>> using Gnus, and am part of the users seeing the "leaks".
>> AFAIK you're not seeing leaks, but only excessive memory use (and
>> failure to return memory to the system early enough for your taste),
> Maybe :). How do we define "early enough"? Hours or days?

Never.  It's still not necessarily a leak.
A leak is when memory is lost and can never be reused again (short of
restarting Emacs).  Whereas IIUC your case is a situation where the
memory is not lost: it will never be returned to the OS but it will be
reused by Emacs itself if/when the occasion shows up.

A leak manifests itself by a memory footprint that keeps on growing
indefinitely even when the usage pattern does not justify any
such increase.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-08 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-07  4:47 Update on the Emacs release schedule? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-07  7:10 ` Chong Yidong
2012-01-07 11:02   ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-07 13:45     ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-07 17:02       ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-07 18:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-07 18:32       ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-07 20:13         ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-08 13:54         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-01-07 13:44   ` fixing memory leaks before the pretest (was: Update on the Emacs release schedule?) Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-07 15:49     ` fixing memory leaks before the pretest Chong Yidong
2012-01-10  0:59       ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-07 16:57     ` fixing memory leaks before the pretest (was: Update on the Emacs release schedule?) Carsten Mattner
2012-01-08  2:39       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu

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