From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:37:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> <87sir336qn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20140301215057.GA19461@thyrsus.com> <87fvn1y0vx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvn0senq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761nusb90.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878usht7a5.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87zjkvhhjt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394631474 12097 80.91.229.3 (12 Mar 2014 13:37:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 12 14:38:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WNjM9-0005Yr-U1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:38:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60658 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNjM9-00024r-H7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNjLz-0001wl-D4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:37:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNjLs-00006x-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:56468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNjLk-00005f-CI; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:37:36 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kMYdtBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kMYdtBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="51453170" Original-Received: from 76-10-154-114.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.154.114]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Mar 2014 09:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 84B5B6057F; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:37:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87zjkvhhjt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:50:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170293 Archived-At: > I like this analogy. It also suggests the way to win is to consider > both fighting from "inside" (by developing the discussed feature with > GCC or Emacs or both), and from "outside" (by making it less obvious > for Clang users that Cland is the best choice.) Or, we could change Clang's color, by working hard on GPL extensions of Clang. Stefan