From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:30:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> <838u1uuuau.fsf@gnu.org> <878u1um2xl.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457408136 5176 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2016 03:35:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 03:35:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 04:35:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8Qc-0002V8-Ju for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:35:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59933 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8Qb-0006Pw-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:35:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41887) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8QN-0006OL-Re for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8QK-0000nx-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:35:07 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8QK-0000nt-At for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:35:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ad8QI-0002EX-Tx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:35:02 +0100 Original-Received: from 157.52.15.125 ([157.52.15.125]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:35:02 +0100 Original-Received: from monnier by 157.52.15.125 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 04:35:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 157.52.15.125 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9aPQ0gd0XIIZq0m1ULoXplsNPFM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201108 Archived-At: > When I submitted my first Emacs patch, I was astonished when I was asked > to re-submit with my commit message essentially duplicated in the > ChangeLog. I can't remember ever asking this kind of duplication. We used to duplicate the ChangeLog-info in the ChangeLog file and in the commit message (tho we stopped doing it a year ago), but we never asked for it to be duplicated in the email messages that submits a patch. So I have the impression that I'm misunderstanding you. Could you describe more precisely the kind of duplication you're talking about? Stefan