From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs26, ucs-normalize.el, =?utf-8?Q?Symbol=E2=80=99s?= function definition is void: regexp-opt-charset Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:21:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83a7j1llur.fsf@gnu.org> <44aa7320-5b14-04a7-7140-1fe2d930a04b@cs.ucla.edu> <83wom3niy4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="266381"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 14 05:21:45 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gu8Wv-001725-96 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 05:21:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39696 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gu8Wu-00009p-71 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gu8Wn-00009Q-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:21:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gu8Wm-0007ws-Pn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:21:37 -0500 Original-Received: from pmta31.teksavvy.com ([76.10.157.38]:59634) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gu8WR-0007eK-LB; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:21:19 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2HDAwBx62Rc/8CoCkxjHAEBAQQBAQcEA?= =?us-ascii?q?QGBZYIDRIEUEo0mixcBggwTIgGZWA2EZgQCAoNZIzgSAQMBAQEBAQECAgJpKIV?= =?us-ascii?q?MAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIUeCKsRijmMW4F/g241imECkUORZwmSbYFfiGiIK5xAD?= =?us-ascii?q?IFdIoFWMxoIMIMogicXE44pJJApAQE?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2HDAwBx62Rc/8CoCkxjHAEBAQQBAQcEAQGBZYIDRIEUEo0?= =?us-ascii?q?mixcBggwTIgGZWA2EZgQCAoNZIzgSAQMBAQEBAQECAgJpKIVMAQQBViMQCzQSF?= =?us-ascii?q?BgNJIUeCKsRijmMW4F/g241imECkUORZwmSbYFfiGiIK5xADIFdIoFWMxoIMIM?= =?us-ascii?q?ogicXE44pJJApAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.58,367,1544504400"; d="scan'208";a="69706179" Original-Received: from 76-10-168-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([76.10.168.192]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 13 Feb 2019 23:21:12 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4405CAE145; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:21:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83wom3niy4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Feb 2019 05:32:35 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 76.10.157.38 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233305 Archived-At: >> Most likely regexp-opt gets loaded during the first run of "loadup", so >> the compilation of ucs-normalize by the initial bootstrap-emacs >> succeeds, even tough the compilation of that same file by the >> `emacs` fails. > Why is the first run of loadup different from the rest? Because the first run of loadup is done with not-yet-compiled Elisp files, so it loads a crapload more packages (because of things like (eval-when-compile (require )) and autoloaded macros) than the second run (performed after the preloaded files have all been byte-compiled). Stefan