From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 09:42:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="65020"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , Stefan Kangas , Emacs developers , =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= , Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 07 15:50:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jWgvP-000Gnz-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 15:50:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38398 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWgvO-00067U-Qj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 09:50:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWgnZ-0003TX-12 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2020 09:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:15547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWgnX-0004m2-P8; Thu, 07 May 2020 09:42:48 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7B4AC81474; Thu, 7 May 2020 09:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C84E0809E9; Thu, 7 May 2020 09:42:43 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588858963; bh=llzF/LDW4CPGiIM4zKUorEY034ToLY0aJ59k2G7Pmt0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Cz7vkQKGQq0otk7LAyPxf6mA2NrDL7qJ54726B4gYR7KzNzyZsBuOtwxFXmIcsX7c labSlhX+Tb2dUuIKkTBSEbEoPTR6BFE7qRz6Dntsy1Qx3ZcqCXJZXddkAKWsTTfpLe IUW8UOkLdk9pk+7Y+oJI+tXTqBZ3ST2Mc7+Ag7MMmRuTYGWO199U8oHNV+7jVgo2kQ 8WQSW6wUcvMDX51cW++oolG4t4LTi7x1t6inwF31X9Z4YV78ZSrivT2BFPzT/FQnEy I0bJbvVCB3j6KgRnCPcaLsvlUbF5Mmk/NtcJamnurKqcvdl1lTwc6SPd6ZgIHCyGFN WSalWuBI3bqlQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31D9B12078F; Thu, 7 May 2020 09:42:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Philippe Vaucher's message of "Thu, 7 May 2020 09:23:40 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/07 08:11:37 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249172 Archived-At: >> Would someone with good social skills like to ask the developers of >> dash to move their development into GNU ELPA, or ask why they have not >> done so? I am sure they can see the advantage of having their latest >> version available through Emacs. > There's something I don't quite understand tho, please explain it to > me: from my uneducated eye dash.el is very similar to s.el. My guess: he doesn't know dash.el (just like he doesn't know about most of elpa.git, and of course even more so about the rest of the Emacs world outside of emacs-devel and emacs.git: he doesn't have the time to learn about those things). With a bit of luck, he'll now ask for dash.el to be removed from GNU ELPA. Stefan "depressed"