From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rethinking the design of xwidgets Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:04:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> <835z7e2ouj.fsf@gnu.org> <86v9fet5sg.fsf@akirakyle.com> <83imbe1040.fsf@gnu.org> <86pn5luak4.fsf@akirakyle.com> <83362g27y6.fsf@gnu.org> <124a89a6-353c-91f8-8a1a-d2a807db28e3@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29344"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, ak@akirakyle.com, Dmitry Gutov To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 16:07:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kUVob-0007Vz-6y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:07:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40246 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUVoa-0002yS-82 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUVmk-0001tz-Dn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:05:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:58583) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kUVmg-0001kx-0u; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 560C780855; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3C1A3801AC; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:05:01 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1603116301; bh=MXNeWNq4boJCGNzz8VGyz8YAtGBi42+4Xyl6BW4tXp8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=R1sMCJZNsJ7o048TU5T+D5EIKYVsNDL3w6E1Ci2BKelj7yCs9aAtl6cvWCsghuHJO 8il5WE5CTYWGJ9l6Ay24kR5zGRA297PjS+GhZzlJ46mJsnTnCnFwXux2tZvQKUyXRT CMjcR2xGySXZNK7+YfR33zacAfte0lUfznOvf4b/TSkO+b6praIbHK2K7zskZtgIVd KJpec4SmD3CK1lGTnNPkOm9UjoejJ9YyQV4yi07cjwN687iYbAjdKRmqE4XnL2K9+A WSP4Wvs2AUiCTgf8gENNUkIqmC5pjYL8EdgFDEZbINeT7GSC5y/L/EEVl9Kwm144Hl iO9MXy6hSXWbQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C18A81200DC; Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:05:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:44:43 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/19 10:05:03 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258114 Archived-At: > > Like I described, modern Intel GPUs are reasonable fast at OpenGL > > already. > In the Free World, we don't get the modern Intel GPUs. The computers we can > use -- because we can turn off the Management Engine -- are the X200 > and T400. > Would this feature run fast enough on them? I don't actually what "this feature" refers to, but to the extent that the Gnome environment works fine on a Thinkpad T60 with integrated Intel GPU, I see no reason to expect problems. Stefan "who remembers playing with the funny features of compiz on his Thinkpad X30"