From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...] Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:01:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tuqbft57.fsf@telefonica.net> <87im6rndo0.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1232"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 17 15:02:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lCNPW-0000Ed-9j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 15:02:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43958 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCNPV-0004to-9h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:02:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCNOe-0004RG-Rx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:01:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:45082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lCNOb-0004Ez-U5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:01:40 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EEB618091C; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:01:36 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7EB8E8033D; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:01:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1613570495; bh=OoUnw9nb7yLwX3ogdjKDoxFlRYMENu4tgzbmJP85qLs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=LvKFt0V6NR+hOP/ZI4KrWSBKUrMfBNS8xrXjoEXQpWrpsUIBLdc9CDjUCSUONnwja cpgDN6WPBd5aB+M/cSQNK1mQB/+Z/zjSnMOxQAZyyjFW0oNvgMptIdSzRt0uqoXbX8 7PA8R/JAc8KIKGQq1PcL60dgguPiuvZyMB3bFvTjsvKemwPaKGyIQVq7JZP+t/nPNo Jnus6ofxPTWBDcowu+DFaVyekp7tY94gjLLUCVQporC/AbOEgAOsNZUxXQH53XgGER NgsLJtrU/BCbqHVLUAhpt+URptHSb9cGiqlZQFvuRLMeN+YMmRdjEcR8szorhHBI2H cBrIi/A8foSNA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.41.47]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A39F12045A; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:01:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87im6rndo0.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:20:47 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264999 Archived-At: >> Tho things can get murky: e.g. when dealing with multi-language buffers, >> or with commands like `diff-refine-hunk` (which I often use in Gnus's >> article buffers). > That's not a mode-specific command, so tagging it as such would be an > error... The point was that it's not necessarily obvious that it's not mode-specific. > Multi-language buffers are an interesting problem, though. But... they > work by switching `major-mode' around, don't they? In which case, > things should pretty much work automatically. (I'm thinking of > mhtml-mode.) That's my hope as well. There's also org-babel, BTW. >> IOW when you have one "language's" text in a buffer that's not using the >> corresponding major mode. > I'm trying to think of cases where this would be a problem, but I'm > having problems coming up with an example. It should only be a problem if some commands are tagged too optimistically. Stefan