From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:35:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9c9af088-580f-9fb1-4d79-237a74ce605c@inventati.org> <874kgkxxs0.fsf@posteo.net> <87blamp5hy.fsf@posteo.net> <87h7k0c7tz.fsf@posteo.net> <83a6psq932.fsf@gnu.org> <87im4gaq63.fsf@posteo.net> <838s5brgom.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6prby4n.fsf@posteo.net> <831rb3rds9.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2dbpmw1.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmynphh5.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4823"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 21 21:36:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lZIeY-0001Ai-Ib for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 21:36:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZIeX-0001AJ-Kv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZIdV-0000Wg-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:35:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:14538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZIdR-0004e2-Lw; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:35:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E9CA910045C; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 986C0100311; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:35:38 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1619033738; bh=iANKCU3dmVPpawFOpuikmCLLsipDdAjoHiEhq0lSgMo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=BRO2LEmujDRsGombYIaUh0BvWsezFTP5aCxii5X6pEyLENWncNqNXFgbk1S49KM5K PDshfUO5nnfYNpfzqJzHktD1vKjb/A2CU6mbu41PE8QCw7Eht0jwNXw1Rj8SVv+uXJ /7f4U4fIKgwOO1bnAVUyEEmi62ofd0Cg9EXJIitu0zWDptZ2QLAsDMX7Q/t4KFshcq e286jjG8YyqY/QtN9bka+loNfrp9s2StJz5omd9d+fkQPIeO4vqdFjHXRHR7/47QMk VzhteoC97CtdfSwOMlNaZVsCPaMseC+AhFQvrkLVCwdWe5pqlVpPBiKV8TczpDUDTs zBYDJ/eYGwo0A== Original-Received: from alfajor (104-222-126-84.cpe.teksavvy.com [104.222.126.84]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 62E6E120283; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:35:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83pmynphh5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:25:58 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268251 Archived-At: >> > That's easy to support with menus: just doesn't create the submenu >> > unless the user says so with some mouse gesture, like pressing some >> > modifier key when clicking on a menu item. >> I don't think Gtk menus offer such a functionality > Isn't the menu data created by Emacs, GTK or not? If so, we control > whether a menu item has children or not. Right, but we can't re-create the menu while it's in use, so either the entry has/is a submenu or it isn't. It doesn't offer "some mouse gesture" for the user to select "the entry that corresponds to a submenu". AFAIK the only thing you can do is walk the tree for a while and at the end select one of the leaves. Stefan