From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:23:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83wnb1bt96.fsf@gnu.org> <87a67vuwmo.fsf@gnus.org> <41a702f1-60fb-65fb-3862-d198c46cd6e6@gmail.com> <87sflnqaub.fsf@gnus.org> <831qt77xmk.fsf@gnu.org> <87k06zq6uc.fsf@gnus.org> <83tu636i7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87sflmosrt.fsf@gnus.org> <835yih7uum.fsf@gnu.org> <87lerdop3r.fsf@gnus.org> <83y1vd6exz.fsf@gnu.org> <87fshln89m.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5528"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 24 15:22:31 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQqL0-0001FK-RC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 15:22:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57094 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQqKz-0003aP-Nz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 09:22:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51742) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQpPp-0007kW-Pn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:34368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQpPn-0005KV-UT; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5AA42806AA; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D943B8051A; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:23:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1661343800; bh=7YTS5obRaWm8y+BdXS4fBrg0HQ0qurPmFtd8pXR52Wc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=lebgPjdk01aUE+qRce0426VzWZa2UxZkFKHNdqnQ4exCdR2x4akHsQhufLeQttgFC y2tfFXFNN0FS5vD/d200iyHzCv+phoM9IJIaHtPCjlJjmfzWSQfwGIX8fS4MqpMeC1 ortV269cXNpM1IG6LJo+pMzo0FXU0MSmkkH/mWqD7vuqhA4wyoZ4JBtuFi1Gubd+3f ko1K6ZVFcyN+RY2izGJjaNRAB7cXeEbfKl9QmOKiTTet7YYyb0WhXYMpCVUH0NVU3w kJ7EAc5SgtKLJpsdHKSCIeR31uvwh+dRU187MTRVpMdeagnWI2t/e6ax7y/1Jt27a2 n6EHXQYTQap4g== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.195.111]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 649E5120306; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:23:20 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87fshln89m.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 24 Aug 2022 14:19:49 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294019 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-08-24 14:19:49] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> I don't see any need for a variable. Those who want the `config.cache` >> to be removed can either refrain from using one in the first place, or >> remove it by hand. > > It's nice that you can tell users to say "make bootstrap" and then the > tree returns to a known state (because we have many build issues that > are fixed by just that). So I think we want to keep removing the > config.cache. Those users who use `-C` should know what to do. And the argument against using a variable works the other way as well: if you really want to keep your config.cache file, then just use `--cache-file=config.cache.says`. Stefan