From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Replace 'pp' with 'prin1' to generate ELPA archive-contents Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:25:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fsfgp1tx.fsf@posteo.net> <87pmejsxt4.fsf@posteo.net> <878rl3rson.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0mok1f.fsf@gnu.org> <8ED67A2B-4A75-423C-B42F-00CBFD482C7C@yahoo.com> <87wn8mvciu.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10229"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , philipk@posteo.net, stefan@marxist.se To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 17:31:00 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oniMu-0002VN-8X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:31:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oniHp-0007rv-12; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:25:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oniHf-0007IW-Gg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:25:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oniHZ-0004QQ-9a; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:25:33 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E7675100201; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 69EBD1000DA; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:25:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1666797925; bh=uH4rfDUlvEsDI4p+H3plPLxwhJcTdHOvhKM3UWC+iYs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=L1Ixr0RXequwxkG4GpNGWUH3Fc2m9+62ePox1zK+Y4UaNnKoN3UEX2CZfB+AaqQfn u1OOLDMnkR1X0XOG+q2kShk+H9yHN8FzrdkEi+yaSpRRnSEggemF5MPa/uw8QiVtL/ R8xQ7zNh4MAyo546g84d3mBnxd8yDrIHiSRukMpkT4yaPqZ1e+kFuDxmsHMPhYBgNJ G7r7Z3Zr+d09drKDMBE1tw8C5vKnkmpDd1mjrntehKfP7uzmCwwIcKP3PnPiFuJQQh XGlZ8bdf1IdgbvInlhcHdGUIi65jcdrncXdrJuYdOAvfQzQPJkGxsTTFUilDK60BuE OLRN1yRDLhtFw== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 151651201C1; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:25:25 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wn8mvciu.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:18:49 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298550 Archived-At: Robert Pluim [2022-10-26 17:18:49] wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:02:00 -0400, Stefan Monnier said: > > Stefan> Po Lu [2022-10-26 22:11:38] wrote: > >> On October 26, 2022 8:18:20 PM GMT+08:00, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> How about making zlib a required library for Emacs? > >> This would be a little drastic, > > Stefan> zlib is ON by default, is required internally by gnutls which= is also ON > Stefan> by default, and is a requirement for the native compiler as w= ell (which > Stefan> is not ON by default), so it's not *that* drastic. > > And let=CA=BCs not forget that the default value of `package-archives' > contains https URLs, so anyone building Emacs without GnuTLS is > already causing themselves problems with package downloads. Not really: (defcustom package-archives `(("gnu" . ,(format "http%s://elpa.gnu.org/packages/" (if (gnutls-available-p) "s" ""))) ("nongnu" . ,(format "http%s://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/" (if (gnutls-available-p) "s" "")))) > Stefan> Maybe if we relax this to "either compiled with zlib or can f= ind `gzip` > Stefan> in `exec-path`", it might be tolerable. > > The latter would imply http downloads only for packages, which is not > something we should promote. We're not promoting them, we're not just doing all we can to prevent them. Stefan