From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:57:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87sfiyk3a2.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <838rkp4ptj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgd58i7y.fsf@posteo.net> <83k0492u5i.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsew8g18.fsf@posteo.net> <83mt941cyd.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsewp0ec.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> <83r0yfzz01.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkpjyx3p.fsf@posteo.net> <83bkpjynmj.fsf@gnu.org> <87iljqya44.fsf@posteo.net> <8335auzo9s.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26960"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 07 18:58:48 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1os6OV-0006lY-H7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 18:58:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1os6Nh-0006XM-GE; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:57:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1os6Nd-0006W5-Lz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1os6Nb-00024D-Tf; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:57:53 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B413D80667; Mon, 7 Nov 2022 12:57:49 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3906B8024C; Mon, 7 Nov 2022 12:57:48 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1667843868; bh=83ca+gIKyITCPvHHlfopcpZDDfGbHS5Z4oMAQqBMl3s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=OHT63olbFPigLu+aiHYtw6lzCcn5wCa7QXuCE6/fFSlaiq3FnqdPCNUT9nXvZPiax EuhB6oOuwOG4364yyv0191QCzeF69apUC+hVpi9aJFFXOJ73eZf4pmwGUeenzmQIil qxhk3k0DiG9AYbj6azWrq7z3/+MK27FB3MLwaKG6JdBPo+urIMmsVd97ixW8ZzZaja UZjswYIkzTcD1+nFSwNGDjiEXM6gc4X+ADpfQZF514ZEmDUEyDl67ZsY5Q/Oiy1yp3 ptCkkeuDXPaeYKiSIXyb4D2d0cDNeeOnJiPhsefoDI4/rVhf+jLAAPpgzoUEXeFbgK c8k8au+VEAtuQ== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EBDFE120EE7; Mon, 7 Nov 2022 12:57:47 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8335auzo9s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 07 Nov 2022 19:07:43 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299300 Archived-At: >> It still seems more elegant to encode what the lisp directory is in the >> package description. > > You consider manual configuration of a package to be more elegant than > automatically finding the directories to put on load-path? Note that we want a single description per package, which can be shared by (Non)GNU ELPA and `package-vc`, so this imposes additional constraints. Also automation is nice, but it has a cost (e.g. many packages have ELisp files in both a `lisp/` subdirectory and a `test/` subdirectory: which one should we pick?), and since packages where ELisp files are in subdirectories are a fairly small fraction, I decided for (Non)GNU ELPA that it was cleaner to use a manual config than to try and be (too) clever. Stefan