From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Candidate packages for ELPA bundling [Was: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?] Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:18:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bk4ql3u5.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <864jagu9ji.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmn076zr.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <87frtofbsg.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32498"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Jeremy Bryant , Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 17:19:17 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxqe-00089A-Sz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 17:19:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxpw-0002DT-3H; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:18:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxpu-0002D0-3r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:18:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFxps-0006UI-F6; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 11:18:29 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 29A6A440809; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:18:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1717859904; bh=e+PoPi2jgooyT+6YeoUW2XuAYIqd9ULINPKosjw+wiM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=EboLKqncB/FqtIAkssvnZzxzW46MkUVOu4++4OmfZWic3sNP5nH2UE5EVwUvaFVqM KRHF4mk4UZgViHJ8gytK4vAZnw4ZS6Hli08+1c76w1Z4kn59sDbA52V38J9HdfSgVy CVH8CXTKWWOEEeRSF3wRLWAwYNFMLb5BxnWUYlcjyQHu7owZxlCWioKX1Hhn4fh1fz dvQ2pEI2qxigW4mTKlXv9WMxXCuswLdX/98tM1oFK6frD5frGwNOq7pipqJfivyPDw fMM10ddisYDt9d/ickbujh0jiO+rhw41cBUp5NZJ/xk47ZTjM3ukGpPvzyQRsIOlrg /MsTOF1a6OghQ== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 689474407B0; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [24.140.236.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27306120280; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:18:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87frtofbsg.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sat, 08 Jun 2024 09:44:47 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319900 Archived-At: > and downloading dozens of ELPA repositories before each build, not to We have only two "ELPA repositories": `elpa.git` (which hosts all GNU ELPA packages) and `nongnu.git` (which hosts all NonGNU ELPA packages). So you're talking about downloading just 1 ELPA repository (since AFAIK noone has yet suggested to bundle packages from NonGNU). But in any case, as Eli mentioned, the plan was instead to duplicate the branches from `elpa.git` that we want to bundle with Emacs into sister branches hosted directly in `emacs.git`. [ At the cost of a bit of redundant storage and having to keep those in sync with the ones in `elpa.git`. ] Stefan PS: For reference, the previous work in that direction can be found in `feature/core-elpa-by-copy` (and also `feature/integrated-elpa` which was an earlier attempt).