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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>, Masatake YAMATO <jet@gyve.org>,
	Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>,
	"Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Subject: Re: raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:48:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr6wlssns.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <853b927nyd.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu\, 02 Nov 2006 00\:21\:30 +0100")

>>> (and if the reason has to do with input-focus, I'll need more info
>>> to understand what's the relationship with raise-frame).
>> 
>> If you really want to know the answer, the logical thing is to ask
>> at wm-spec-list@gnome.org (to post to that list you need to
>> subscribe at wm-spec-list-request@gnome.org, or subscribe to the
>> no-traffic list post-only@gnome.org).  If you want to summarize the
>> situation and ask the folks there, that'd be great.
>> 
>> (Though my money is on "misfeature needed for some odd reason"; I
>> think we should just apply the patch if it demonstrably works,
>> especially since it shouldn't have any harmful effects.)

Maybe not "harmful", but it does change the semantics since it fiddles
with focus.

> Yup.  Emacs central is just not the place where we want window manager
> bugs tested and reported.  It's better for our reputation and nerves
> if we just pass the buck.  It is a lesson I keep getting as a project
> manager.  You don't get points for insisting that another program
> should follow its specs when nobody else does.

Agreed.  I'm not opposing the patch, I just want to make sure that we pass
along the fact that there's a bug, and the patch should include a comment to
the effect that it's a workaround for a bug in window-manager <foo>, version
<bar>.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-02 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-31 11:12 raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 Kenichi Handa
2006-10-31 11:57 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-10-31 12:24   ` Jan Djärv
2006-10-31 15:37   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-10-31 17:19     ` Jan D.
2006-10-31 19:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-01  7:08         ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-01 23:15         ` Chong Yidong
2006-11-01 23:21           ` David Kastrup
2006-11-02 16:48             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2006-11-02 21:47             ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  3:50     ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-11-01  4:51       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-11-01  2:14   ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  7:28     ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-01 16:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-02  4:43       ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02  7:56         ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02 16:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-03  7:54             ` Jan D.
2006-11-03  8:55           ` Jan D.
2006-11-03  8:59   ` Jan D.
2006-11-09 10:27     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-11-01  2:14 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-01  7:24   ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02  4:42     ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02  7:30       ` Jan Djärv
2006-11-02  8:23         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-03  7:07         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-02 17:46 ` Chip Coldwell
2006-11-02 19:25   ` Chip Coldwell
     [not found] <b9yoe9xece4.fsf@jpl.org>
2005-06-27 23:41 ` raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 (was Re: `make-frame' makes...) Katsumi Yamaoka
2005-06-28 15:48   ` raise-frame doesn't work in Fedora Core 4 Johan Bockgård
2007-09-14  6:24   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-09-16 10:25     ` Jan Djärv

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