From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature request : Tab-completion for 'shell-comand' Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874pbmjgsy.fsf@gmx.de> <874pbknt3j.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> <87mypccg6r.fsf@jurta.org> <87lk4vpxnk.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204827720 17043 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2008 18:22:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Michael Albinus , TSUCHIYA Masatoshi , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 19:22:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXKjO-0000zY-46 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:22:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXKiq-0002H8-9K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXKim-0002GU-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXKih-0002Fs-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXKih-0002Fp-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXKid-0000HF-VP; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:28 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAPDEz0fO+LKX/2dsb2JhbACsYYEH X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,457,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15666724" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2008 13:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.178.151]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id MVB16527; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CF67A816B; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:21:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87lk4vpxnk.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:31:11 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91532 Archived-At: >> I think that when the minibuffer is active, we should still output >> a message, only differently (as does minibuffer-message). Maybe just >> using minibuffer-message (and changing it so it uses plain "message" >> when the minibuffer is not active) would do the trick. > I wish _all_ messages would display ala minibuffer-message when the > user's editing in the minibuffer -- the current behavior (temporarily > ovewriting the minibuffer to show messages) is stupid and annoying, > especially given that many errors one gets are fairly trivial or > transient. > I made a patch to do this sometime before Emacs 21 was released, and > recall various issues popping up though... I think mainly it was the > somewhat more exotic users of message, like quail completion info etc. Since minibuffer-message doesn't do anything useful currently when the minibuffer is not active, we can change it to call `message' in that case. Then we can replace calls to `message' with calls to minibuffer-message on a case-by-case basis. Stefan