From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current state of python.el in the Emacs trunk Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4D40F55C.2040400@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296153329 2354 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2011 18:35:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fx@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christoph Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 27 19:35:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWgl-0007Ly-UM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:35:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41439 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PiWgl-0005yJ-DQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:35:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53855 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PiWge-0005x8-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:35:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWgc-0005GL-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:35:16 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:34589 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PiWgc-0005FO-L0; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:35:14 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEACxJQU1FpZU//2dsb2JhbACkfHS8QYVPBIUXj2k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,387,1291611600"; d="scan'208";a="89443874" Original-Received: from 69-165-149-63.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.149.63]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 27 Jan 2011 13:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B662558C4E; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:35:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4D40F55C.2040400@gmail.com> (Christoph's message of "Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:32:28 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:135116 Archived-At: > I noticed that the original author Dave Love has an updated version on his > website, that, among other things, also supports Python 3. There is a note > in the beginning of the file that this version is not covered by FSF > copyright anymore. Can anybody (Dave?) shed some light on as to why there is > such a big discrepancy between the Emacs version and Dave's version on > his homepage? AFAIK, the problem is that Dave decided to declare the new changes as "not covered by his copyright assignment", in other words, expressly forbidding us to use them. I'm still not very clear if that's really what happened. > Could we update the Emacs version with Dave's changes (if he agrees and the > legal stuff is sorted out, of course)? We'd be happy to do that if we could, yes. We'd also be happy to have Dave help maintain our python.el directly. > I would also like to volunteer to work on python.el by integrating > Dave's changes, and work on other issues. If you can help clear the the communication between Dave and us, that would be wonderful, yes. > For my own benefit, it would also be nice if it supported alternative > implementations like IronPython, which right now it does not. > There seems to be some support for Jython but just invoking the > IronPython interpreter in Jython mode does not work and seems > hokey, too. Patches welcome, Stefan