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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: Re: Calling Lisp from undo.c's record_* functions
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:49:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr3jo1sqk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bnasbnlq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 Nov 2015 18:24:33 +0200")

>> The problem is not in undo.c but in the fact that insdel.c calls
>> record_insert at a moment where Elisp code can't be run.  So the call to
>> record_insert would need to be moved.
> Even if run_undoable_change doesn't call Lisp, but instead conses the
> list by calling Fcons directly?

My answers were assuming that we want a solution that keeps using Elisp
for run_undoable_change.

> That's what Phillip did on his branch.

Yes, I saw that branch, but that's a separate thread.

>> But of course, in reality it's not the whole record_insert that needs to
>> be moved, only the run_undoable_change within it.
>> So if it's difficult to move record_insert to safe spot, maybe we should
>> take run_undoable_change out of it.
>> E.g. maybe we could call run_undoable_change from
>> prepare_to_modify_buffer instead.
> Beware: prepare_to_modify_buffer is not always called.

When would it not be called?  You mean there are cases where we'd add
stuff to the undo list but we don't run before-change-functions?
Wouldn't that be a bug?

> Why call this at such a low level?

To me, prepare_to_modify_buffer is actually higher-level than record_insert.

> Why not at the level of general_insert_function, Fdelete_region, etc.?
> (Yes, that would be more places to change, but so what?)

Yes, we could push it to an even higher level, but if
prepare_to_modify_buffer works, it's preferable, I think.

In any case, these are just suggestions, I don't have strong opinions on
these issues now ;-)


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-17 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-16 16:46 Calling Lisp from undo.c's record_* functions Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-16 21:51 ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-16 22:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-17 12:14   ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-17 13:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-17 14:42       ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-17 15:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-17 16:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 16:49             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-11-17 17:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 17:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-17 18:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 19:09                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-17 19:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 21:05                     ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-17 21:02               ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-18  2:55                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-18 12:26                   ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-17 16:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 20:52           ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-18  3:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-18  9:56               ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-18 10:49                 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-18 17:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 16:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 16:51       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-17 19:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-17 21:35           ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-18  2:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-18  3:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-18 12:31               ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-18 17:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-19  1:49                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-19 10:16                   ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-19 15:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-19 17:49                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-19 17:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-19 18:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-11-22 21:44                       ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-22 22:41                         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-23 17:29                           ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-23  3:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-23 17:28                           ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-25 17:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 22:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-26 10:27                               ` Phillip Lord
2015-11-17 21:13       ` Phillip Lord

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