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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:08:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr33c3x3f.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20170204110259.GB2047@acm

>> > The "alternative patch" didn't scan comments correctly all the time
>> > when I looked at it, just as the current back_comment doesn't.

Of course, there's an alternative way to look at this reality: your
comment-cache changes the behavior in some cases where the AP patch doesn't.
You claim that the new behavior is "correct" and the other one "wrong",
but AFAIK these are borderline cases where both interpretations can be
correct or wrong depending on what narrowing was used for.

So while I don't claim that comment cache's behavior is *wrong*, it
might break existing code.

> In the following test case (same as in my other post) the "alternative
> patch" doesn't work.  Narrow the buffer with point-min at the indicated
> position.  Put point at EOL.  Try M-: (forward-comment -1).  This fails.

>     char foo[] = "asdf asdf" "asdf"; /* "asdf" */ /*  */  /*   '"'"  */
>                       ^

For example here, your intention for narrowing is clear, but Emacs
currently doesn't keep track of the fact that the user put this
narrowing (rather than some code like mmm-mode), so while in this case
your comment-cache is probably right, in other cases it might give the
wrong answer.  E.g. maybe in a case such as

     char foo[] = "for (x = 0; x < n; x++) /* Loop header */\n";
                   ^                                        ^

where the user narrows to the string, then goes to EOL and does
M-: (forward-comment -1)

Really your comment-cache (just like the existing code) currently can't
do much better, because to do better we need to fix the narrowing
problem.

So really, the problem to be solved is the problem of narrowing.
Once that one is solved, AP and comment-cache should both be able to
behave correctly in both cases (in the case of AP, this will happen
without any changes to AP itself, because the fix will be in
syntax-ppss).


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-06  2:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-02 20:24 Bug #25608 and the comment-cache branch Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 21:51   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-02 22:15     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03  7:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-03 17:29       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 22:08         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-04 10:24           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  2:09             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:24               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-07  1:42                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-07 19:21                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-14 15:28                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 16:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-22  2:25                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-22  3:53                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-23 14:23                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-23 14:48                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-24  7:46                                 ` Tom Tromey
2017-02-14 21:14                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-16 14:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-18 10:44                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-18 13:49                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12  2:53               ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  8:20                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-12 10:47                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 11:14                 ` martin rudalics
2017-02-12 15:05                   ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-12 15:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 22:00       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  1:12         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-06 18:37           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-11 23:25           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12  0:55             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 12:05               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 13:13                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2017-02-12 15:57                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:29                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-12 20:35                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-13  1:47                     ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  5:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13  6:45                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  7:24                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13  7:59                             ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  9:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 16:14                           ` Drew Adams
2017-02-13  7:05                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13  7:16                         ` zhanghj
2017-02-13 14:57                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-12 17:49                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-13 18:09                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-13 19:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 21:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-02 22:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-03 16:44   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03 21:53     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-04 11:02       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  1:28         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-06 19:37           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06  2:08         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-02-06 20:01           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-06 22:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 21:24               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 12:54                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-07 15:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-07 21:09               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-08 17:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:19   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-04  9:06     ` Andreas Röhler
2017-02-04 18:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-04 18:28       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-02-03  7:49 ` Yuri Khan
2017-02-03 18:30   ` Andreas Röhler

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