From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:08:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40424"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 15 17:10:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kICb0-000APB-LW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:10:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58482 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kICaz-0001zO-K2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:10:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kICa6-0001F9-9o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:09:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:16151) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kICa3-0008KY-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:09:17 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B8FD610023C; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 626881001CB; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:08:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1600182535; bh=MxRGlCUFG786/PJgjXwP5qGTXiVoYNzqNhysb3MV88g=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ekT/CZwDRcvzrOUwkCDpg+bd4024Eq5wUe1jKdSqIjn9dkJV4K7+igEzM3gu4jSh2 0rNVVBXGqPkIYDRXpeZJaQJG17Q1ZXJcS7JDg51HkeDCNfdfwHdMTokmyjj7YgmFS9 jaCMM8BE3ghKvMJbEQAOrbgqtlhJiOAj/GiHQT7Dapg/iLfGDnZ9+XDuWwV8QJh9Ur XrkZNwR5l0u94A0+2NM1N1yWIF01bbw2WxXGq0FdGXbPV5zoSpMnSbnIk7RFogTuXu M4/tuig+Dy+lHVd2BRYPQpw/PgyFgWGd7PIVx5dZnd5APrt6hpPwpPcOToSfWsyNO7 dCyG68k9l0Mug== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28EF6120623; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:08:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo via's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2020 14:41:07 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/15 09:11:24 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255752 Archived-At: Hi Andrea, Any chance you could turn it into a custom-theme? AFAIK most of your minor-mode could be turned into a theme fairly easily, so what I'm asking is for you try and do the extra work to cover the remaining non-trivial part (e.g. the key-bindings). Part of the difference between a minor mode and a custom theme is that a custom theme is more declarative, with consequences such as the fact that a user can enable your hypothetical "modern theme" but with `fido-mode` disabled, and it won't have the effect of "enabling and then disabling" `fido-mode` (e.g. running `fido-mode-hook` twice along the way). I'm mostly interested in pushing the limits of what can be done with custom themes, so try to keep an eye on what generic/infrastructure changes would make a "modern theme" easier to write cleanly. > I had a look but for now I gave-up on the idea of picking up a dark mode > to enable as is not so easy. I thought setting the foreground and the background of the `default` face is all it takes (it should change the frame-background-mode and thus cause all other faces to choose their dark-background alternative). What problem did you encounter? Stefan