From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New packages: elquery, file-ring, metamorph Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:28:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878rsuh8ai.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10617"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Adam , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "T.V Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 29 10:32:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nZ7HR-0002TR-St for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:32:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48234 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZ7HQ-0003fF-FU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZ7Dg-00010e-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:13144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nZ7Dd-0005Gd-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:28:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A5C4A8051E; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1923780066; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:28:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1648542522; bh=3yV2nCo2oZmHBSc+tVMLuxRqg7Sg922Wr/KWu1bdUp8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=IHr3SexyFTgu7rvksUaOBLf2d5hXmtc3zLZNOxb6pi20XF2QbgtxrmJL2jDdgI46q LB8zX/N60WH9k4gROaDRTm+WP9gYFjrIFya5o7GGJOEJWvIxUp+06cgJOtxHYwe1gQ DMyH38x/uUam9qdC1woHPcSB8l5nwiVwpU92WccuVOP1EM+1GpqMczTpI7B2uRV5gd tT8B6oqQC/X2whuhgbg6B+MtTF5/8mLSA1+Qj5TEaLrP0NVHQQ40rtNbkkQQlimPJT ihgrcCgW6N8XW/5a7SiV/E1cGIJ9ZBAsicYFVg4p3p47tSsPrN/amQofX1cBEJehCm IEZ7/8ydrL/mQ== Original-Received: from ceviche (dyn.144-85-153-166.dsl.vtx.ch [144.85.153.166]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46893120521; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:28:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (T. V. Raman's message of "Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:53:29 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287550 Archived-At: > Sadly putting the examples in README is not very helpful since > installing your package from melpa doesn't appear to bring down the > README; one shouldn't need to click through to Github to find out how to > use it if one has installed the package. A better fix is to make it easy for Emacs to show the README (assuming it's included in the tarball). I think we've discussed this in the past and there had been some progress, but there's probably more to do. > Also, a README that says "it's like JQuery but far less useful" is > likely to chase away any users --- yes I understand the need for > humility and to not over-promise but this is perhaps going a bit to far > --- why not try to at least have the goal of making it as useful as > JQuery? Alternatively just write an elisp wrapper that calls JQuery:-) More importantly, it should also be understandable by someone who doesn't know what is JQuery. Stefan