From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: noverlay branch Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:12:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1468ca31-1703-82a1-0c8c-be2c5b5674a7@gmail.com> <87r0zld0de.fsf@rfc20.org> <87edvki88a.fsf@rfc20.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40170"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Matt Armstrong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gerd =?windows-1252?Q?M=F6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 07 19:15:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ogqw9-000ACZ-Tx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 19:15:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48608 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogqw8-0007ma-Rt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:15:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40582) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogqte-0005eN-H2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:12:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:24196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogqtc-0007Cx-VZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 13:12:26 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 289E38001D; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8230180401; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1665162742; bh=ic6ra1YsulsGnEZPhvvvWP0lfwt5EO8ejuFpNa7+scc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=VhiIJ8m0DZV58u1HIOAJ5EQILLVub2XefkZn+0Xa1FJG4xqTB8jhMz6mh1WXEI4am kZM/UV71UskCUByQ/Wjj+ggWnkTNP1TcC6Sc4rZbZ1fmzcxoMbLF44qnmcsJ+rzsaT kQV/2D6Q/OHQHTfnJkvKXl/89mkfFoTCiceNmFN00moSixnWT5430PinQ1lJqqnPWC 1yfPoQihVxVsuIXs3700gwFFl82OCCaWP+yY/MmeowX/oBFD9hKeaymxuKTYwF2Caw hWV4Fg14I6DxUB9vbs7bcAvi04fYcqFNonqMu3InjlpKTnIFyW7d5dLhZir53PXyP3 qJ62gaXTCFImg== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10C41120C56; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?windows-1252?Q?M=F6l?= =?windows-1252?Q?lmann=22's?= message of "Fri, 07 Oct 2022 17:12:04 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297165 Archived-At: Gerd M=F6llmann [2022-10-07 17:12:04] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> Then I don't see how it would be a "ready-made complete solution" >> because it doesn't seem easy to make such updates lazily "from the >> outside". > > I was anwering the context of the whole thread on the bug list, which > partly landed on emacs-devel. Where "tree" meant what we talked about > implementing a successor function instead of a stateful stack that was > being used at the time, and so on, and so on. Ah, duh, sorry, Stefan