From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding the `prescient` packages to NonGNU ELPA? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300389 Archived-At: >> E.g. I can't see a clean way to install `git-commit` directly from its >> VCS (i.e. recognized by `package-activate-all` and running from the Git >> clone) without either forcing the install of `magit` at the same >> time(&place) and/or having side-effects like sometimes shadowing another >> installation of `magit`. [...] > This is an unusual, and in a sense extreme, example. FWIW, I have no idea whether it's usual or not and what's its history. > Prescient is a much more typical example, I don't know in which way the situation is different for Prescient. > git-commit/magit also has an unpleasant backstory. I can tell you about > that in a private message. All I'll say here is that I did not actually > want to add git-commit to magit but the behavior of its author forced me > to accept the offer to take over as maintainer. At the time it seemed > best to do that by adding it to the magit repository. But that makes no difference to the problem at hand: by being in the same directory as the other `magit` files, you can't add it to `load-path` without adding those other files as well. > On the other hand, I have some doubts this is actually going to benefit > anyone. Is there anyone out there who does use git-commit but not magit? This cuts both ways: if they're always installed in pair, why not keep them as a single package? Stefan