From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improvements to `(emacs)File Variables' Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:59:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <878y942l8h.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <20041114232600.GA12968@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100624628 14705 80.91.229.6 (16 Nov 2004 17:03:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, overlord@gmx.li, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 18:03:39 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CU6jy-0007wB-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:03:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CU6sj-00057o-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:12:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CU6q8-00037P-Ka for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:10:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CU6q5-00035W-Uc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:09:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CU6q5-00035Q-R0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:09:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CU6gJ-0002Ys-W7; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:59:52 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505B58282D0; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:59:51 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F6D4AC068; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:59:46 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A97EE8CA69; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:59:45 -0500 (EST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:49:07 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29936 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29936 > I think we should make the whole _concept_ of "unibyte" deprecated... > That would be too drastic--and unnecessary. > There are probably thousands of users who use it, > if not tens of thousands. This isn't broken; > it works smoothly enough now, and no longer requires > a lot of maintenance. > So let's please not think of changing it. I do not intend to change the code (other than in my own local Emacs build, obviously), but whether or not unibyte is deprecated is important when deciding how to change the manual. I think the concept of unibyte and multibyte thingies should be kept within the Elisp manual, but should be avoided when possible in the Emacs manual. Stefan