* Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?
@ 2006-11-24 18:52 Stefan Monnier
2006-11-24 19:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2006-11-24 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
AFAICT pgp5 is not Free Software. Should we remove the pgg-pgp5.el file
that handles pgg's support for pgp5?
Stefan
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2006-11-24 18:52 Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el? Stefan Monnier
@ 2006-11-24 19:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-25 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-25 6:58 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-11-24 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
On 11/24/06, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
> AFAICT pgp5 is not Free Software. Should we remove the pgg-pgp5.el file
> that handles pgg's support for pgp5?
progmodes/sql.el supports Oracle, for example. For what I gather from
previous discussions, I think it is acceptable if we're not offering
better support for the non-free program than for the free
alternatives.
Just my opinion,
/L/e/k/t/u
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2006-11-24 19:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2006-11-25 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-25 8:58 ` Reiner Steib
2006-11-25 6:58 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2006-11-25 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
>> AFAICT pgp5 is not Free Software. Should we remove the pgg-pgp5.el file
>> that handles pgg's support for pgp5?
> progmodes/sql.el supports Oracle, for example. For what I gather from
> previous discussions, I think it is acceptable if we're not offering
> better support for the non-free program than for the free
> alternatives.
IIUC another concern is that supporting this non-free should be more
favorable to Emacs than to this non-free software.
In this particular case I believe that pgp5 is sufficiently rare, poorly
supported, and advantageously replaced by gpg (whether you care about your
own freedom or not), that I don't think Emacs has much to benefit from
supporting it.
Stefan
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2006-11-25 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2006-11-25 8:58 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-11-25 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Juanma Barranquero, Daiki Ueno, emacs-devel
[ Cc-ing Daiki Ueno ]
On Sat, Nov 25 2006, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> In this particular case I believe that pgp5 is sufficiently rare, poorly
> supported, and advantageously replaced by gpg (whether you care about your
> own freedom or not), that I don't think Emacs has much to benefit from
> supporting it.
1. `pgg-pgp5.el' might be required for people to read old encrypted
mails, or does gpg provided full compatibility? Would people have
to switch to other (non-Emacs-based) MUAs for decrypting such
mails?
2. IIUC, PGG will be obsoleted by Daiki Ueno's new implementation
EasyPG (for GnuPG 1.4.3 and up), so I don't think we should remove
`pgg-pgp5.el' at this point (before the release).
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?
2006-11-24 19:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-25 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2006-11-25 6:58 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-11-25 6:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: monnier, emacs-devel
progmodes/sql.el supports Oracle, for example. For what I gather from
previous discussions, I think it is acceptable if we're not offering
better support for the non-free program than for the free
alternatives.
Making Emacs work with non-free software is ok, when the main effect
is to encourage users of that non-free software to adopt Emacs. When
the main effect is to encourage Emacs users to adopt that non-free
software, we should not do it. In borderline cases we can go ahead
and do it.
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