From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ruby-mode : ruby-mode-set-encoding Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:10:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tz6ak9bq.fsf@gmail.com> <49adca00.14098e0a.2c79.ffff83d1@mx.google.com> <878wnm9h65.fsf@xemacs.org> <8763ipake1.fsf@xemacs.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236175899 22111 80.91.229.12 (4 Mar 2009 14:11:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Leo , Nobuyoshi Nakada , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 04 15:12:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lerq9-0006Zi-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:12:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45589 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Leron-0006r3-7t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:11:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LernS-0006Fi-L6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:10:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LernQ-0006EU-Hq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:10:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44980 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LernQ-0006EI-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:22863 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LernQ-0002tc-2F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:10:04 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQEAP8arknO+KX2/2dsb2JhbACBTtY0hAgGhAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,301,1233550800"; d="scan'208";a="34675904" Original-Received: from 206-248-165-246.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.165.246]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 09:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AEFAB4B454; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:10:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8763ipake1.fsf@xemacs.org> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:10:14 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109440 Archived-At: >> Interesting. Why don't they just force the use of some arbitrarily >> chosen variant of Unicode? > To avoid "arbitrarily" breaking software systems and development > environments that target other character sets. Sorry, I meant "didn't" instead of "don't": these are recent programming languages, and since Java was able to do it why couldn't Python do it? > You cannot simply run all files through recode, as that will break > strings that display on legacy terminals or have been interned > in databases. Nice theoretical problem, but I think that Java proves it to be a non-issue in practice. Anyway, it's too late now, Stefan