From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Blink Cursor mode is off by default Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <838t7lqnf0.fsf@gnu.org> <83zi01p6th.fsf@gnu.org> <13a2189b89d06be494cbc21561713d5d.squirrel@dancol.org> <83o9ggpwfs.fsf@gnu.org> <98930BC3-F62C-4BFF-8B06-8CFB65E8D243@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528816939 15677 195.159.176.226 (12 Jun 2018 15:22:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:22:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 12 17:22:14 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fSl7d-0003zg-NC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:22:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56888 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSl9k-0005am-R8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSl9Y-0005ZF-D9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSl9T-0000hU-H7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:33229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fSl9T-0000gG-A9; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:07 -0400 Original-Received: from lechazo.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id w5CFOTf1015926; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:30 -0400 Original-Received: by lechazo.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 748BC606BB; Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <98930BC3-F62C-4BFF-8B06-8CFB65E8D243@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:02:09 +0300") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6306=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6306> : inlines <6690> : streams <1789478> : uri <2656995> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226258 Archived-At: >> Why not? Now I can have the entire configuration loaded before the >> first frame is created. It looks clean. Agreed. I used to have a local hack that caused the .emacs to be read before creating the initial frame, so now I can finally drop this hack. > Clean, but unsafe, as important parts of startup has not yet > been done. E.g., anything related to fonts or faces will probably > not work reliably at that point. Some things won't work, of course, but it's not new: the same problems affect ~/.emacs when Emacs is run as a daemon. > There's a reason why we read the user init file at some specific > place and not before. There are advantages to using ~/.emacs (e.g. emacs --debug-init drops you in the debugger instead of dumping a stack trace), but it's not universally superior. Stefan