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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Blink Cursor mode is off by default
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:24:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvpo0w58xf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98930BC3-F62C-4BFF-8B06-8CFB65E8D243@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:02:09 +0300")

>> Why not? Now I can have the entire configuration loaded before the
>> first  frame is created. It looks clean.

Agreed.  I used to have a local hack that caused the .emacs to be read
before creating the initial frame, so now I can finally drop this hack.

> Clean, but unsafe, as important parts of startup has not yet
> been done.  E.g., anything related to fonts or faces will probably
> not work reliably at that point.

Some things won't work, of course, but it's not new: the same problems
affect ~/.emacs when Emacs is run as a daemon.

> There's a reason why we read the user init file at some specific
> place and not before.

There are advantages to using ~/.emacs (e.g. emacs --debug-init drops
you in the debugger instead of dumping a stack trace), but it's not
universally superior.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-12 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-11 16:48 Blink Cursor mode is off by default Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-11 17:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-11 17:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-11 22:13     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-11 23:19       ` dancol
2018-06-12  2:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12  2:33           ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-12  4:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12  4:12               ` dancol
2018-06-12 15:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12 15:52                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-12 16:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12 16:51                       ` dancol
2018-06-15 14:14                 ` Yes, please allow pre-configuration of first frame [was: Blink Cursor mode is off by default] N. Jackson
2018-06-15 14:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-15 21:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-16 14:37                     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-16 17:20                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-16 17:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-16 17:33                           ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-12 15:24               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-06-12  2:29       ` Blink Cursor mode is off by default Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-11 20:43 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-06-12  2:26   ` Eli Zaretskii

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