From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs + Etherpad compatibility? Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:34:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <219042AC-556D-48CC-8920-82D9BF2BD3AA@aol.com> <3A81FB67-A558-4281-8285-CDD9B01033E3@posteo.net> <1C949FC9-6023-467E-99EC-75D57B08AFB0@gnu.support> <20200929124513.fd745r2txowwbiir@Ergus> <87blho7af9.fsf@red-bean.com> <20200929215849.zg4wzytbrwx2b7ih@Ergus> <84B86B7C-81F0-42DF-894C-BF577E4B3D6E@mit.edu> <20200930001333.g6b3mqa4mdsoxiue@Ergus> <87r1qjzp91.fsf@red-bean.com> <20200930131931.scdkrx46vylpi4c3@Ergus> <87blhkbh21.fsf_-_@red-bean.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26589"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Ergus , Fermin , Qiantan Hong , Jean Louis , Noam Postavsky , Emacs developers To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 22:36:29 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kORn3-0006oC-5L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 22:36:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51588 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kORn2-0006hE-8X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:36:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kORmF-0005qv-ND for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:65056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kORmC-0006vW-Vt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0CED54409AF; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 16:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C436244096F; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 16:34:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1601670898; bh=bREbdCQIMzRB75Xt3AoaPKkMYVGN4a5HN7ou0OThPkI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=dnQ2f8xUfY3GoUrSOpnHTUAOKPC4colyzoYYPWUiElVKj0DeIFP7X/oNYU/9xWS6K Lj/uqiqaPST2PBbrat+Y2lcp1v8kfGpa5cwjuiCu74k+Jtf1CEBRYkEmHs0ju/IXno BbDiAn8TrQtr6ALgg5NiJv0EWj+Rj2jLp4aSm39mJazpnRvLZtVIWGuIzFqGMOYiX9 aeCGN4moylWdELKKYNFs7g1csSINt96JXGnCFPodxwZAcs4yVQxRzJWg4ZmSTpS7Ur 31UTNby4Mcy+Phh4jrHk3ai4nam5wb2n0tadZDVfqfTV4ON4sZ26Jvg61yYlU1TuGe AJrv9ayGZcQwQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73543120439; Fri, 2 Oct 2020 16:34:58 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87blhkbh21.fsf_-_@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Fri, 02 Oct 2020 13:48:06 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/02 15:24:08 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256970 Archived-At: > The protocol used by Etherpad is EasySync -- see docs here: > > https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/develop/doc/easysync/easysync-notes.pdf > > https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/blob/develop/doc/easysync/easysync-full-description.pdf These docs don't seem quite sufficient to implement a client, but it looks like it shouldn't be hard to implement it, indeed. > Personally, that's where I'd start if I had time to work on this. It would > give us both real-time collaborative editing for Emacs, *and* Emacs users > being able to real-time collaborate with non-Emacs users on the same > document! This would be an enormous win for Emacs. That'd be sweet, yes, Stefan