From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: updating async on elpa Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 10:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874kfom16w.fsf@posteo.net> <871rarn69c.fsf@posteo.net> <87y2czll5a.fsf@posteo.net> <87o8dvty56.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgxf5zyz.fsf@posteo.net> <87lf8zrqym.fsf@posteo.net> <87r1iqeh9m.fsf@rabkins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29433"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yoni Rabkin Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 01 16:23:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcqWx-0007Z9-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 16:23:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58328 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcqWw-00062a-Me for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 10:23:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcqW2-0005B0-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 10:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcqVz-0004fv-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 10:22:41 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9D7BB440172; Sat, 1 May 2021 10:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E82A3440717; Sat, 1 May 2021 10:22:31 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1619878951; bh=NGIBhO2nHgmBb2nsUtHAfZu0N9GS5YCOQpNV4JPHfwE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=HjJ45Fctzy8j2ZvYgzT+833DKI0mgJkOxsR/EQKOJl2w2jbuhUMIgh7bKlWr5ne+m xIJVorszZh6AiFkIe/QwigrlrPRFkDN4nbamzjCkE2A/eDcfjXE4seaky3mAoGFffp XZims7o23ndYrNu+bSfItaXHU5rRWXjCRZYM/KYGRcEoVzzGZoaMrVC6R/kWz6BMlR yqDB2p+bs4gqJAi7HD0zm4pvT+4G4TcwNK8wM6p7hdXrghRTR1K0TKPdMhTVSE2d6M ty6NpRHlLtRjh/FFPB5ZRDovqwKxndxFAHvRG6IPb/aBFgFsS+kSVbkaWQYZKs5PlF 4LfLRNEJWi5lQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [108.161.125.61]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77A111201FF; Sat, 1 May 2021 10:22:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87r1iqeh9m.fsf@rabkins.net> (Yoni Rabkin's message of "Sat, 01 May 2021 09:05:25 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268712 Archived-At: > Having one repository per package is how it works everywhere else > (Savannah, etc.), and is easier to understand because of that. This is > from the point of view of a contributor of course; I cannot speak to how > it looks from Stefan's side. >From my side it's plain and simply not an option at all because creating a new repository on git.sv.gnu.org requires manual intervention from the Savannah admins. Having had to design a solution that lives within this constraint, I'm actually pretty happy about the current result, so if the constraint were lifted, I'd probably want to try and preserve the advantages. In any case the `:auto-sync` feature should make it much less of an issue. > I would be much happier if emms and rt-liberation had their own > repositories since it would mean that I couldn't possibly break anything > except emms or rt-liberation when I push to those projects in elpa. The `elpa.git` is configured to reject non-fast-forward pushes, which should catch most blunders. Plus it is cloned at various different places which are not all constantly updated, plus (almost) all changes to it are reflected in the elpa-diffs mailing-list. So even if you do manage to make some really terrible mistake it should be quite easy to recover from it. You might want to activate the `:auto-sync` on your packages, tho to save you from the worry. Stefan