From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:39:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83a6jtff87.fsf@gnu.org> <5ac7a31cf2959c31c262a3377c736a5a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83ilygew7p.fsf@gnu.org> <83fstjdiwl.fsf@gnu.org> <871r534s2o.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfxgx09x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgrmv1dr.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="452"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , Phil Sainty , Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel To: =?windows-1252?B?Sm/jbyBU4XZvcmE=?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 07 00:12:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYF96-000ATM-Rt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 00:12:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56436 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYF93-0005IT-5U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 18:12:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51310) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYEeI-00042m-5Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:40:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:55897) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYEe3-0004UK-2D; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 17:40:24 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C23301002F2; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 17:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4E9B5100068; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 17:40:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1633556405; bh=MeAF2LDhcvBBK8qc3wF7HjQ7dz23nmEkKDwaLHt9FuI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Nj4+LEXbo9cuGVg+/hJz5WtOhB8nvmMxVb/ZAe81wfGVf1awYAYOIZcyEtLrZE9HZ VTtozNnhzX0mdArwo9b3tBNrvTeEGiMtliRfw5M+N4XrlowRah9SH4/AN74k4BcKit i7yTynPjZ3Bl3Kiu/7x9A4670R5GtrloUj9fT/TF643nk3zTDA+GLZ8Kk7dQxsK903 s/H4Dd01UsNyF7YQ8bALTensIN+huLJIDXg9Puti0sR5JznRprDiDZ4qPL6Au2sT9B sfEcQlg1jZFAzoq5pJajQRGCPRKnFN/aknjaUpFvGm4Fb+dbgnhS/33cZU/PzafBMj EQvMaa9QPr90Q== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.241.23]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99E771201DA; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 17:40:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Jo=E3o_T=E1vora=22's?= message of "Wed, 6 Oct 2021 22:10:36 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276465 Archived-At: > ... with a jit macroexpander and code walker, nice. I always > thought it was just heuristics. Got to remember never to > launch rockets in macro expansions I guess. Depends if you like fireworks, Stefan