From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:06:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> <87wndq56uv.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilp93kak.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtehv0lf.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14118"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: goncholden , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 13 15:08:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0jnr-0003Vi-GK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:08:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49056 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0jnq-0005sc-Eo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:08:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0jm2-0004J0-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:06:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:49946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0jm0-0001DO-FW; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 750CD8079A; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1CB628035A; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:06:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1655125585; bh=+T1Z7cdSjUxzODUcI9auq9lK9WDxCkK/Voz42T7G6/A=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=I9RpS7VnoB6FWDVcPIXPViQMWpziFNix+mBF5M5YKppbqT0zrwFVuWw+mYNpSJi2U k88oiAe4HCVP+90vsn8iSnVv/r4a5y6M6GrgVU/0xtfi3nK+BTtts9EBaYbkvSPTrH 1Ft10gAChjWt8sx0I9mQkTCYjfImMb+oc+NnKwl66CelqwZM41vJhPIKT3pj+gx/JX c9cpBQORp2P6wLAZsXjEiW5fuxIjC76jjGqMAMdsH5rVtCSbf/2ADsn/GXeuK4YSYj KdWyRcusmKYhXw1IGooLuWDd7ieyCVE58wOYKtHAbb1BCV3n7CyhwDR0f5B6BQt/VV w18DB1mYWUbcg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2B3D12040A; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 09:06:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87mtehv0lf.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (Sean Whitton's message of "Sun, 12 Jun 2022 20:00:44 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291139 Archived-At: > Perhaps also worth mentioning the little-known: > > (require 'mode-local) > (setq-mode-local foo-mode indent-tabs-mode nil) FWIW, I don't like this one because you lose control about *when* the variable is set. Stefan