From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs master + org Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:56:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83tu6v27yh.fsf@gnu.org> <6F871C02-AC26-4B89-B64B-E9F4ACACDBE7@acm.org> <83sfmf26b6.fsf@gnu.org> <835yja7o7j.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8ra5uee.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnbqcebn.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o7x259wg.fsf@gnu.org> <87edxyc5ds.fsf@yahoo.com> <83iln95yd7.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7x04kul.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu6sa5uf.fsf@yahoo.com> <83czdg4h7p.fsf@gnu.org> <87k07oa2ie.fsf@yahoo.com> <837d3o4eyn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13939"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu , acm@muc.de, gregory@heytings.org, mattiase@acm.org, philipk@posteo.net, silent2600@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 23:57:35 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oJiqV-0003Sp-I1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 23:57:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52484 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJiqU-00077b-Bd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJips-0006Nh-Ku for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:7327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJipq-0000Oq-5h; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 27B21100178; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 795741000EB; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:56:46 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1659650206; bh=rFL5cCWU1a8VTWzBUsFAOGrhwtuOT2puBWChzXBMHPE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ZVqaYmcP/4mvLkEtIbDeGtqP19pmA+Z9JgfcvYfMHoHIRltlJA3vqvwQGxs/NsbKk 1ezchQSz3OHM7oYTVBB+antRXLKBlvg7aXChGoTuo6brxvVFvBhx6eDVVkeNpCECNC gHOiNWLk0E5iZToFGxXY8hLLyY0UlHY/nxfzc/a7IevgtEmzdKb4omKdJ0ESYqkplz 3u0h4nWFg3hXAtILx4u60ekNFiOD6owAqKQb2moAc4Wfc50J+skU/Pu5IBioARsh/O HJ8dph7qpO2muZcgmOSKwUiZnZ+Nj/id/yUgnTDggNoiXxL/gCgGHo5oGI7t8yB6UF FMzmLPJzPXm3w== Original-Received: from milanesa (unknown [46.44.221.102]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E20DD120388; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:56:44 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <837d3o4eyn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:58:56 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293088 Archived-At: > We decided that we do want to impose our opinion, because not doing so > results in Emacs being unusable, which is a long-standing gripe of our > users. FWIW, I don't think the fact that Emacs suffered from "the long lines problem" is due to package maintainers not being able to clean up their act. I never bothered to try something like `synax-wholeline-max` in the past because even in fundamental-mode long lines were a problem, so clearly the motivation to fix this bottleneck wasn't very high. The situation now is completely different. We can now announce "Emacs is now finally fast even with long lines, except in those few major modes that still misbehave", so the onus will now be on the package maintainers to clean up their act, and we can have a clear guideline for how to do that. Stefan