From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 48aacbf292 2/2: Make many seldom-used generalized variables obsolete Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:46:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <166111278304.2846.13033924580993120733@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220821201303.AD1E6C0088A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <877d29hm53.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87bkrcqnxc.fsf@bernoul.li> <878rmf29ak.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2401"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Jonas Bernoulli , Sean Whitton , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 19 14:50:54 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oaGEg-0000PV-9n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 14:50:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaGEf-0002Hu-2R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:50:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaGAW-0008E5-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaGAT-0008PP-V8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:46:35 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6AD3E100134; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3D30D10009E; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:46:31 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1663591591; bh=RXaUdQl4DG2Dtrqiu9QNw1f9z7TJMoiFbmAbQNC1IWo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=O2BukdcL5T5JlEZ6WxVsO5opL6AjMpmnjlKPcNfhfyfVs8S9VqtA7hT4ER0gOUKuc fBK3EzIauRdvO8XPrJg7RhfRBn9i1qeSLffUAyWXbt2KG7Yibj2OmUulJIiS2oSnx0 ti9TRDo1IEo3AdV4BdOmKn7nPX1tAmiLV5gfantNAfOCHleJaUuz2dGZvpse7v2OzQ mIR5GYY1ADzoH+fgkKUQCi/orPty8MRAdJACPPipqDM4u1qCvZ2xxUMy4bsw182LKw zsJ3MZfoIpcwBtTiktX+BUUekAUnSMYel0njtGaBKp642RR9aOWenaeT/5/Kc02OMe uP2niDUgvg4vA== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [157.52.9.190]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F38C012055D; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:46:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <878rmf29ak.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:00:19 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295685 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-09-19 08:00:19] wrote: > Jonas Bernoulli writes: >> There is one generalized variable that I would like to see undeprecated >> though: >> >> (setf (buffer-local-value 'var buffer) val) > > See bug#26624. FWIW, `alist-get` suffers from the same kind of problem. If we want `cl-letf` to work well with "fancy" gv-places, we need to make the gv-expanders aware of the `let` case so they can provide special code for it. Not sure it's worth the trouble. Of course, the case of `alist-get` is somewhat different since it's already useful with `setf`. Stefan