From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: src/Makefile unhelpful Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:42:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87illl55oa.fsf@gnus.org> <875yhkew4o.fsf@igel.home> <4d68c253fc6cb7d49ceb@heytings.org> <871qs8ei03.fsf@igel.home> <4d68c253fc2407f8c89b@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5967"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Gregory Heytings , Andreas Schwab , Gerd =?windows-1252?Q?M=F6llmann?= , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii , EMACS development team To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 19 22:44:32 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oaNd1-0001KY-NH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:44:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33212 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaNd0-0004qW-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:44:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaNb0-0003oZ-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:42:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:57828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaNav-0002wg-TH; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:42:24 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4AF42100169; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BEC31100084; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:42:18 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1663620138; bh=Bhi/1pw0wSwDntryHIwR4RmuSMt07P4Ca8lxfpm3DyA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=e5ErffuNEFZHB7QXgGIS/LZsFUPIfblmzljXb07GeedIVPoUDzJjmzh1OHcdZesTZ Gy8PnkiMlfcdcaIA+SVpTUcZIiafdC3PyLfhrWIrqHljy/yoG6jcfT3cP4zUin6bBG wv44iIUpomlzTCQK8QZPM8n5UrUpREML6yYIkDgh7Xcnc0qdj7Ude9e2mrnBZgaPTw O0QL52xvcRTw2F6i2JeRJJDat6fhDcKunpcWMTdyVw8901jb6/uxh4QRQXA1g0NMFv iTWCR19XRSc9AuzsJoe3Z5byiGebCUDR4sQfO6bruCwUrVcUZnsc8T7wh8u2fgPxM+ 9C0q2E+ZOB79w== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.44.229.252]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D04F120986; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:42:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (chad's message of "Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:20:29 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295756 Archived-At: > If you're already breaking it into parts: how hard would it be to have the > Makefile rerun with a message and V=1 automatically on failure (and > obviously avoid make-looping)? We could also try and recognize the common sources of those failures and try and fix auto-fix them. E.g. check the emacs-devel archive for recent reports matching this error. Can't be hard with today's wonderful AI thingies. Might even get a conference paper out of it. Stefan "no, please don't go there"