From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bugs against emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:51:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20081212214756.GI24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081212232551.GJ24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081212235751.GK24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081213094259.GM24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081213231403.GR24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081214002310.GT24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229226705 12405 80.91.229.12 (14 Dec 2008 03:51:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 897@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, 430@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 14 04:52:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LBi2F-0004S9-1C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:52:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47895 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LBi13-0001D2-4a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:51:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LBi0x-0001Al-J1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:51:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LBi0v-00019e-C4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:51:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44473 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LBi0v-00019b-8U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:51:29 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:57611 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBi0u-0007Ag-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:51:29 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHIRRElMConz/2dsb2JhbACBbM0Xgn2BLw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,218,1228107600"; d="scan'208";a="31015538" Original-Received: from 76-10-137-243.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.137.243]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2008 22:51:27 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 33AFC85A8; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:51:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20081214002310.GT24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> (Don Armstrong's message of "Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:23:10 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106902 Archived-At: > There's no way to know whether such a message is going to actually > through, and it's still pretty hackish anyway. People really need to > stay away from the "reply-to-all" crack. I don't think that's right: "reply to all" should include NNN@bugs, but not submit@bugs, not bug-gnu-emacs, not emacs-pretest-bug, not bug-submit-list, ... so the problem is in the headers of the messages sent by Debbugs which doesn't strip some of those addresses (tho it does seem to strip submit@bugs properly). If "reply-to-all" sends to addresses to which the reply should *never* be sent, then the error is not in the use of rely-to-all, but in the headers of the email to which the user is replying. >> And #430 (which you said was doable) might help a bit. > Yeah, someone else asked for it in debbugs proper; I can add it, it > just didn't make much sense to me to change it since Reply-To: is > already set that way. The right thing is for mailman to stop setting > MFT; I don't know if that's a configurable setting or not. Oh, right, some of the addresses get added after they leave Debbugs, so it's arguably not Debbugs's fault in that case, indeed. Maybe bug-gnu-emacs's Mailman can be configured not to add MFT, or else maybe Debbugs can add its own MFT in the hope to preempt Mailman's (not sure if that will work). Stefan