From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest next week Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:17:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87y6x4ue2u.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87ocxqnnb6.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <877i4dk1rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233594943 25885 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2009 17:15:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 18:16:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LU2Pn-0004og-S5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:16:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34698 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LU2OV-0001lX-5f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:15:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LU2I4-0003H5-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LU2I2-0003Fs-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:08:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43023 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LU2I2-0003Fb-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:08:54 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:12901) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LU2I1-0000Yi-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:08:54 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEAD+3hknO+IQk/2dsb2JhbACBbsozhBQGgmyCUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,366,1231131600"; d="scan'208";a="33208376" Original-Received: from 206-248-132-36.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.132.36]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 02 Feb 2009 12:08:53 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8C01CB41AD; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:17:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:47:57 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108592 Archived-At: > If you want to start the pretest soon, I suggest putting off the > inclusion of the Cocoa/GNUstep port until Emacs 23.2 (or later). > In particular, the GNUstep port doesn't have enough quality to start > pretest. Since there's no alternative code for Mac nor for GNUstep, there's no harm in providing it and nothing to gain from removing it. If it's not robust enough, we'll just label it "experimental" (which we'll probably have to do for GNUstep, sadly). Let's move forward. Stefan