From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Interactive hat.
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:09:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvocvo6y7g.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090326152738.GF3358@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:27:38 +0000")
> Yes, I hate this feature. But rather than blinding me, this has opened
> my eyes to its problems, and I am thus motivated to root them out. By
> contrast, those who like the feature will be blind to these problems.
The feature is a result of a long and painful process. I have no
intention to go through it again. I think the result is pretty clean,
so I'm not open to changing it, except for minor aspects.
> Anyhow, I've discovered that this problem is not new, and it's already
> been solved. XEmacs put a "_" into their interactive string long ago,
> and there's a macro `defunx' in antlr-mode.el which, when used in place
> of `defun', strips out the "_" from an interactive string; OK, it does a
> few other things, too.
> How about adapting this macro and putting it into a special source file
> in .../lisp/, and making a discreet mention of it in "Using Interactive"
> in the elisp manual? For example: "Note that using \"^\" will prevent
> your function running in older Emacs versions. If you need this
> compatibility, consider using the macro `defunh' in the file
> lisp/compatibility.el.".
> I would far rather put the work in here and now than have to field
> complaints on bug-cc-mode in a year's time, asking why the CC Mode
> commands don't work with shift-select-mode.
> So, how about it? This solution will leave interactive-hat, as it is
> currently implemented, untouched, and it will stop me moaning about it
> for ever.
What about my other suggestion to make it available to interactive
specs using a Lisp form rather than a string? That would seem a lot
simpler and cleaner.
So, I've indeed done that, which incidentally simplifies the code.
Now inserting a "^" in the interactive string is just the same as
calling (handle-shift-selection), so you can write
(interactive
(progn (if (fboundp 'handle-shift-selection) (handle-shift-selection))
...blabla...))
-- Stefan
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2009-03-25 10:16 ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 10:30 ` Interactive hat Miles Bader
2009-03-25 10:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 11:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-25 14:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 11:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 14:59 ` Miles Bader
2009-03-26 11:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2009-03-26 12:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 14:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 16:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-29 0:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2009-03-29 1:40 ` Miles Bader
2009-03-29 2:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-26 14:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-26 15:23 ` Miles Bader
2009-03-26 17:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-25 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-25 11:26 ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Juanma Barranquero
2009-03-25 13:20 ` Interactive hat Chong Yidong
2009-03-25 14:19 ` Interactive hat. [Was: CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode] Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-25 16:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-03-26 12:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 13:50 ` Interactive hat Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 15:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 17:09 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-03-26 19:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-26 22:32 ` Johan Bockgård
2009-03-26 23:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-26 23:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-03-27 2:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-03-27 11:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 19:32 ` Interactive hat. (Patch) Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-14 20:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-14 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <20090423205030.GA2723@muc.de>
2009-04-24 13:38 ` Interactive hat. (Patch V2) Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-27 11:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-27 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 22:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-29 7:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-29 11:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-29 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-07 19:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28 0:14 ` Karl Berry
2009-04-28 1:12 ` Miles Bader
2009-04-28 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 21:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-28 21:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-13 22:50 ` Interactive hat. (Patch) Miles Bader
2009-04-14 20:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-04-14 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-15 8:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-03-27 0:20 Interactive hat naesten
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