From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Save `nil' from the mutant void, preserve the truth of falsehood, prevent the falsehood of truth Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:52:31 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284371598 3072 80.91.229.12 (13 Sep 2010 09:53:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: MON KEY Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 13 11:53:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ov5is-0002kc-3I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:53:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32958 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ov5ir-00078t-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40849 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ov5ib-00076g-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:52:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ov5iR-0007In-QO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:52:48 -0400 Original-Received: from impaqm1.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.1]:48108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ov5iR-0007Ia-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:52:47 -0400 Original-Received: from IMPmailhost4.adm.correo ([10.20.102.125]) by IMPaqm1.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id 63Jl1f0BZ2iL0W2019saqR; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:52:34 +0200 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([83.61.39.212]) by IMPmailhost4.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id 69sX1f00S4aeRwb1k9sYFj; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:52:34 +0200 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-TE-authinfo: authemail="monnier$movistar.es" |auth_email="monnier@movistar.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitnetc01" Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 743CF6637B; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:52:31 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (MON KEY's message of "Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:16:26 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130035 Archived-At: > `#1=', and related reader syntax constructs aren't bad. In source code, they are. In source code, you have other ways to express sharing, such as `let', which are much preferred. > Indeed, they are quite prevalent in byte-code files and the language > would be hamstrung without them. Which language? Note that AFAIC .el and .elc files use 2 different languages. >> - unintern takes a symbol as argument, not a boolean, so it should >> not be called with the return value of (fboundp ...) > No, the argument to `unintern' can be a symbol or string. Who cares, it's still not a boolean. >> - calling unintern without an obarray arg is a bad idea. > Yeah, So: why do you do it? >> Maybe we should make the second argument mandatory. > That would be nice. Indeed. >> since `intern' only takes a string rather than a symbol. > Yeah, but again there is the weird corner case of interning the 0 > length string. What's weird about it? Stefan