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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: more url-utils?
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 19:05:57 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvoc2z3c4q.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871uzw5asv.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 18 May 2011 09:43:28 -0500")

SM> I think you're just afraid of lambda ;-0
> ...or are you afraid of macros? ;)

That's partly true.  But your `body' is nothing more than the body of
the callback if passed as a lambda (and indeed within the macro you'll
have to wrap `body' with a `lambda' to use it in the process-sentinel),
so providing both `callback' and `body' arguments is not very useful.
And of course `callback' has the advantage that it takes an argument
(which will of course be `status') whereas `body' doesn't have such an
easy and obvious access to the status.

SM> But I also like the idea of passing url-request-method and such as
SM> explicit arguments.

> (defun* url-fetch
>     (url &rest spec
>          &key silent callback request-data request-method
>               request-extra-headers standalone-mode gateway-unplugged
>               honor-stylesheets confirmation-func cookie-multiple-line
>               cookie-storage cookie-confirmation cookie-secure-storage
>               cookie-secure-confirmation
>          &allow-other-keys)
> ...)

I'm not sure all those args make sense, but yes, that sounds
about right.  We should think hard about what those args should be,
within the larger context of URL rather than only http.

SM> And I'm not sure what it should return if CALLBACK is non-nil (both
SM> in the case where the request is performed asynchronously and when
SM> it's performed synchronously).
> By the docstring you gave, if CALLBACK is non-nil, it must be
> asynchronous.  So CALLBACK can't be used synchronously.

No, callback just makes it possible to do the request asynchronously,
but it can still be performed synchronously and for some URLs we may not
know how to perform them asynchronously (as the docstring of
url-retrieve already explains).

> In the asynchronous mode we could return a lambda (see that? I used a
> lambda!) that can be evaluated to wait until CALLBACK completes and then
                       ^^^^^^^^^
                        called

> returns whatever CALLBACK returned.

That's a good idea.  Kind of like a future.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-14 10:32 more url-utils? joakim
2011-05-14 11:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-14 11:42   ` joakim
2011-05-15  1:59     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-14 20:42   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-05-15 14:26   ` Jason Rumney
2011-05-16 18:25     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 19:17         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:22           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 19:32             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:33               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 19:55                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:52               ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-16 20:18                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-17  3:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-17  8:13                   ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-16 19:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 21:07             ` joakim
2011-05-16 21:18               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 21:21                 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 21:58                 ` joakim
2011-05-17 11:40             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-17 13:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-14 13:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 13:15   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 15:19     ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-16 15:45       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 17:04       ` joakim
2011-05-16 17:17         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 17:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 18:39         ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-15 13:34 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-17 22:26   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18  0:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-18  2:14       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 12:16         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-18 13:44           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 14:09             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-18 14:43               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 22:05                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-05-19  1:57                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19  2:28                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 10:28                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 11:53                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 12:43                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 13:28                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 13:35                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 17:31                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 19:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 19:38                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 22:17                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 23:11                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31  1:26                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 10:15                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 12:45                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 18:38                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-19 14:11                             ` joakim
2011-05-19 14:40                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 13:46                   ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines (was: more url-utils?) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 14:15                     ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 14:16                     ` joakim
2011-05-19 15:24                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 15:09                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-19 15:31                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 16:40                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-19 23:48                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-20  1:23                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-20  4:18                               ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-05-20 15:30                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-20 15:29                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-22 13:17                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-23 14:24                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-23 14:59                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-23 15:10                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-23 15:42                                         ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-05-25  2:07                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26  0:23                                             ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-03 13:59                                             ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-03 16:06                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-04  6:21                                                 ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-29  5:31                                                 ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-29 12:01                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 17:33                                                     ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-29 16:09                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-23 15:45                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-25  2:02                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 10:53                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 16:55                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 17:03                     ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines (was: more url-utils?) SAKURAI Masashi
2011-05-19 22:51                       ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-20 15:49                         ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-05-25  2:17                           ` Ted Zlatanov

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