From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 22:25:20 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87d3kal0za.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o5mky4o.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8762ptue8r.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k4e8ucw3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87liyofwxp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o5cfui5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87liyndz5l.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1306842574 16992 80.91.229.12 (31 May 2011 11:49:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:49:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 31 13:49:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRNRy-0006uy-Te for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 13:49:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58036 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QRNRy-0002rt-7z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 07:49:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58805) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QRNRv-0002rk-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 07:49:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QRNRu-0000Bu-Ef for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 07:49:27 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:46993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QRNRu-0000Bg-Ac for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 07:49:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p4VBnLkL008946; Tue, 31 May 2011 07:49:23 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EC829661EA; Mon, 30 May 2011 22:25:20 -0300 (ART) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 30 May 2011 21:43:24 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, RV3873=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <3873> : streams <642603> : uri <884223> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139958 Archived-At: > So I'd really prefer a way to query whether credentials exists without > having to enter a password. Which I think means that an /etc/passwd + > /etc/secrets-type split is unavoidable. I'd rather add an smtpmail-use-ssl boolean. After all, most other MUAs have such a toggle-box. Stefan