From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Further CC-mode changes Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:02:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <53632C6F.5070903@dancol.org> <20140511211351.GC2759@acm.acm> <536FEA43.5090402@dancol.org> <20140516175226.GB3267@acm.acm> <537653A0.2070109@dancol.org> <20140518213331.GB2577@acm.acm> <20140912235948.GA4045@acm.acm> <20140913151055.GB3431@acm.acm> <87vboo2rgk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wq93ve4p.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87egvb2kye.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410915812 21569 80.91.229.3 (17 Sep 2014 01:03:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 17 03:03:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XU3eW-0001q1-T0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 03:03:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41475 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU3eW-0000ka-F4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:03:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56705) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU3eM-0000jP-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU3eE-0000bZ-JD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:28259) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XU3e6-0000Xg-Mm; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:02:58 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="89983900" Original-Received: from 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.145.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 16 Sep 2014 21:02:53 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CFA50660D3; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:02:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87egvb2kye.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:40:25 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174391 Archived-At: > But no, what it depends on is whether you use those versions or not. > Two separate surveys of large (>100) corporate Emacsen populations > taken in 2003 and 2007 showed that around 10% of users were using > 10-year-old or older Emacsen. I have no illusion about that (although the general trend has changed slightly due to the constant security update needs). The issue is not "backward compatibility" but *how* to get it. Stefan