From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:32:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2nplmb.fsf@gnu.org> <83inr2oje6.fsf@gnu.org> <83shq6mlt3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480721586 9245 195.159.176.226 (2 Dec 2016 23:33:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:33:06 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 00:33:02 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCxK9-0001ab-Im for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2016 00:33:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36995 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCxKD-00066f-E6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:33:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48494) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCxJc-00066V-H9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:32:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCxJb-0001mZ-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:32:28 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:35685) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCxJY-0001l2-1R; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:32:24 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CQAgALW9BX/8mTSC1dHAEBBAEBgy0BAQEBAR6ETYVQhGWrEYIDhhYEAgKBaTkUAQIBAQEBAQEBXieEYgEBAwFWIxALDiYSFBgNJIhVCLxVAQEIAgEkin2KHAEEjx2KPJEVh3iGC5BLHjaEbh6GCgEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0CQAgALW9BX/8mTSC1dHAEBBAEBgy0BAQEBAR6ETYVQhGWrEYIDhhYEAgKBaTkUAQIBAQEBAQEBXieEYgEBAwFWIxALDiYSFBgNJIhVCLxVAQEIAgEkin2KHAEEjx2KPJEVh3iGC5BLHjaEbh6GCgEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.30,296,1470715200"; d="scan'208";a="281391056" Original-Received: from 45-72-147-201.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([45.72.147.201]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 02 Dec 2016 18:32:22 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B33F9AE929; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:32:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:24:55 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209956 Archived-At: >> No. I mean that bytecomp.el would generate a file in a format which >> pdumper can use (which has various consequences, such as the fact that >> .elc files aren't portable any more). > That seems like a big disadvantage to me. This could be sufficient > reason just by itself to stick with the current format for elc files. > People expect to install one elc file and have it work in multple > Emacs versions. Only rarely have we made changes that would prevent > this. Indeed, such a change would mean that "the .elc file" would probably be auto-generated behind the scene on-demand. Stefan