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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro" <oitofelix@gnu.org>,
	"Stefan Kangas" <stefan@marxist.se>,
	"Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>,
	"Emacs developers" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Rename "window" to "pane" (after Emacs 27)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 11:13:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvo8sbs13q.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2324c08-368f-4ecc-bd3a-cfc73ccace8b@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 1 Apr 2020 07:56:31 -0700 (PDT)")

> And would we then rename "frame" to "window", which

We won't be able to do that before (almost) all legacy uses of "window"
are gone (and not just from Emacs's own code), which will take many many
years (to get an idea: lexical-scoping and cl-lib are 7 years old now
and adapting code to them is much less intrusive than renaming all
`window`s to `pane`s), so it's important to realize that if it ever
happens we'll probably be significantly older than we are now.

W.r.t using "panes", we could start by making a *forward compatibility*
library `pane.el` distributed via GNU ELPA containing aliases to
the current `window` functions and variables.  Over time it can be
refined/improved to also rewrite docstrings and maybe try to tackle more
delicate issues (e.g. "alias" the `pane` property of overlays to
the `window` property).

This can be done without convincing anyone that we should rename
"window" to "pane", but can help prepare for it.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-01 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-28 23:07 Rename "window" to "pane" (after Emacs 27) Stefan Kangas
2019-10-29  0:28 ` Filipp Gunbin
2019-10-29  1:55   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-30 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-31  2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 18:50   ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2020-04-01  2:07     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 12:03       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-01 14:56         ` Drew Adams
2020-04-01 15:13           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-04-01 17:04             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-01 17:30               ` Drew Adams
2020-04-02  2:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02  4:51                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-03  2:52                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 15:25           ` Juanma Barranquero
2020-04-03 17:59           ` Sam Steingold
2020-04-03 18:34             ` Drew Adams
2020-04-03 18:53               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-03 18:56                 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-03 18:54             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08 15:34               ` Sam Steingold
2020-04-08 17:29                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-02  2:31         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02  2:31         ` Richard Stallman

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