From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings? Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:44:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <24436.53239.437810.270641@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <24436.58187.698211.262192@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11341"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Gregory Heytings , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "T.V Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 23:46:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kNjvU-0002r1-Fh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 23:46:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36774 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNjvT-0001xr-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNjuE-0001MA-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:44:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:36727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNju9-0005HW-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:44:57 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AB610100222; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2ACF5100091; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:44:51 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1601502291; bh=6N9dGf4mt10XjmjPELAVb4NkZX5Tetv6VwCcLmPI2H8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NYUHa2UUaiGsa3x2UQspvY8gCuYX4w6d9faB6O0driPauAjwBaQ7L20lDatSZaIvu 3GQd/t1Pu22hlG3huq5hfJKYuk44Pn3SMlyPPTqnGvoqGTcZSSkNSkNgfWmQwiiBC0 jxmQ3zEP0eEOpjiB1jD1283ocYuSsQq22Y0uAbVXuFKxeAa0CxGY0mUeHB0SWqTwYF yCfRKCzO40uqCF/qyX4/b1AEim7YGU3Z0g2MiXwVg9S7MUC/ZkmtQ0pAmO0PzopkAo lMT1YqBhGP7gtYiIhOvMfkKITIB+KvEdbjvJUYc58upuXFfyfJZOPszYUdc3k2qRCc VzkKr8tTakg2A== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF3CF1201C2; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:44:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (T. V. Raman's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:37:14 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/30 11:51:22 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256809 Archived-At: > In general I step back to saying emacs needs more keys --- 20 years ago > when I mostly never used a laptop as often, I even considered getting a > foot-pedal. FWIW, all my keyboards have plenty of keys to provide free modifiers (super/hyper). Stefan